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okay here is our guest elaine donnelly

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let me just get started by

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telling us

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about um the center for military

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readiness i understand you founded it uh

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what was going on with you what is your

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background that caused you to take an

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interest in this and choose to to start

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this organization well i founded the

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center for military readiness as a

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public policy organization in 1993 that

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was the year after my term as a member

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of the presidential commission on the

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assignment of women in the armed forces

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the presidential commission studied the

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issue of women in combat for a full year

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and at the end of that i realized there

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was no organization that was following

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the issues the military social issues

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full time at that time or in prior to

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that women in combat was of course and

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still is a hot button issue question of

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whether young women should be subject to

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selective service registration possible

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future draft and in 1993 that was bill

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clinton's administration and the big

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push was gays in the military so we

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began having conferences and did a lot

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of research on it uh as a result a law

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was passed that did withstand

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constitutional scrutiny for quite a few

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years decades actually until barack

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obama came along

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and of course barack obama changed that

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he got congress convinced that was a

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good idea many of the promises they made

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were made to be broken and that was in

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2010 but we so we've been

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following military social issues for

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well over 25 years and it's a very busy

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agenda to stay on top of especially now

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with the new administration there's

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several issues of concern including a

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new one critical race theory

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instructions

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in our military starting with the

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military service academies

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so i want to before we get yeah sorry

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before we get ahead ourselves i'm going

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to tick through all those i've got kind

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of the hot button issues here all set to

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go but just

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back to you so people have your

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background i mean were you in the

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military what was it that drew you to

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this issue originally no i was not in

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the military and that may sound like a

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disadvantage it's actually just the

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opposite because quite often i do call

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out three and four star generals

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admirals pentagon leaders i can say

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things that if i had been in the

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military i wouldn't be able to say

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because rank gets in the way

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just as we see with civilian women

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feminists they're always sounding off

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making demands they know nothing about

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the military the difference between them

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and me is i do follow the advice of

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people whose status in the military i

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respect

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three and four star generals and

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admirals who know what they're talking

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about who have their priorities correct

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and when i founded my organization many

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of them

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were and still are mentors and good

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friends i go to them for advice so as a

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civilian women woman i have the freedom

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to write about military social issues

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i'm not limited by rank considerations

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and i do so though with the help of

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people who have served many years in the

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military and i take their advice very

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seriously yeah well we do have a

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civilian military right the president is

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the commander-in-chief and he is a

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civilian and and then as a matter of

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fact it's a point where it's mentioning

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because we have civilian control of the

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military it's up to civilians people

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like you and me

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to oversee what happens that means

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overseeing congress it means going to

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congress when necessary and say look

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this isn't right you need to support our

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troops by enacting sound policy and not

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allowing pentagon leaders to make such

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serious mistakes that it actually hurts

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men and women in the military and

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detracts from readiness although as we

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dig into the issues i think we'll

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learn that civilian control of our

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military actually has been the problem

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because you've got civilians wanting to

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do social experiments in the military

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and if it was simply left to generals

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with no politics involved and their

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focus was solely on winning wars we

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probably wouldn't be having this social

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experiment you know that too is a point

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well worth uh making the military is

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resilient it does respond to orders now

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those orders can be good orders sound

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policy or they can be bad orders that's

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what we're seeing right now when we see

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a secretary of defense right now

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um who is mandating critical race theory

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instructions in the military the

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chairman of the joint chiefs of staff

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defending critical race theory when we

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see all of these things happening it's

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because the administration not only

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tolerates it it's been encouraging it so

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yes the military is subject to political

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control but it should remain

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non-political now that's a very fine

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line it's something to work for

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the military should not be

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pushed and pulled and changed every year

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depending on who's in the white house

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but but in recent years that problem not

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only has it existed it's gotten worse

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and what we're trying to do is we'll all

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we're saying is we need sound policies

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that encourage readiness morale

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sound policy

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not the kinds of social experiments that

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hurt men and women in uniform and that

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detract from readiness yeah um okay so

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before we pick through some of the hot

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button issues that you guys are working

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on right now last question involving you

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so what was it

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that brought you an issue

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what was your background or what

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intrigued you about it or caused you to

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get involved in this issue to begin with

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since you weren't in the military well

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prior to that i've always been involved

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the equal rights amendment debate caught

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my eye because of the issue of selective

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service registering and drafting young

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being the mother of two daughters that

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defense advisory committee on women in

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the services that was in the reagan

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administration and during those three

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years i became familiar with the

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politics of the pentagon and what i saw

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was that people in uniform are not free

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quite often at meetings they would come

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around after the meeting and say you

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know that question that you asked here's

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the real answer and i would ask them

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well why didn't you say that at the

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meeting and they'd say because navy

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times was there that would ruin my

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commission i realized there was no

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organization that would not only raise

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these issues but question what is

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happening report analyze military social

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issues it all started in the reagan

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to have insight into not too many

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civilians much less civilian women have

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to the military in ways that i have so i

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wanted to use the benefit of that

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exposure in a way that would support the

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troops in this field of public policy so

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we're the only organization that does

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this full-time although we have many

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allies um cmr is unique and

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i hope that people will support us

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because we are really busy right now

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so there was this big push and you could

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tell me when it kind of started and this

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the the military but this big push to

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possibly start drafting women

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began and what do you attribute it to

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carter administration that was the first

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time that the issue of including women

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in selective service uh came up i was

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this happening this is just before i got

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wanted to find out what was going on i

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was a volunteer so it was a kind of a

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culture of the armed forces where

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directly affects the pentagon and it

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affects our men and women in uniform so

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of all of them and would you say it

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women's you know equality movement

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women they're so so they're out there

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around society to see ways in which

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women are treated differently than men

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and just assume that in any circumstance

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that must be bad it must be corrected so

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military clearly was treating men and

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women differently

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say but they don't care about that they

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see women not being treated the same you

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must treat them

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exactly the same irrespective of

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what what the objective is well i

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support women in the military and when i

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was a member of the dagowitz i wrote a

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number of recommendations that did

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law later on that supported women in the

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some of those rules it was okay if they

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were taken away but i do draw this very

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fine distinction and it's important to

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understand the word combat women serve

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that engage in deliberate offensive

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action are different than the experience

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of being in danger being in harm's way

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so it's an important distinction now

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i guess it was bill clinton's

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administration to put women into those

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combat units uh the pentagon

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i think they were not eager to go that

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far for a while there

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the pentagon and cmr we were on the same

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page

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some exceptions they were supporting we

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supported the infantry special

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operations forces and the like but then

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incremental changes started advancing

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and when in 2013 the announcement was

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made that there would not be any

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exceptions for women in the infantry or

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anywhere else the marine corps

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called for a study they initiated a

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three-year study they had the option to

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ask for exceptions that was the most

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comprehensive study ever done and

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probably ever will be done in history of

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what it would mean to have women in

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direct ground combat units but at the

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end of the study when the marines

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asked for exceptions the bill clinton

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administration just said sorry excuse me

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the obama administration said no we're

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going to go ahead with this anyway and

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so all the rules were taken away all the

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exemptions that women had from direct

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ground combat and everyone had to salute

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and say aye aye sir we're going to make

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it happen well guess what it hasn't been

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working out very well the gender neutral

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standards that we were promised would

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happen that many members of congress

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expected to happen

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it's not working out because the failure

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rates when you have gender neutral tests

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for women starting out at 84

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failure rate for women compared to 30

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percent for the men well the members the

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feminists in congress say well that's

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not fair well it's a reflection of

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physical realities so they've made

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adjustments they've changed the terms

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they're trying to disguise physical

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disparities by saying we'll compare the

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top five percent of women to the top

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five percent of men well that's not

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going to work you can disguise the

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physical differences that the marine

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corps study confirmed but it's not going

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to change what happens on the

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battlefield

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in fact there would be more casualties

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both men and women if you try to pretend

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that men and women are exactly the same

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when they're not and you try to treat

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women or train them as if they were men

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you wind up with women becoming injured

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far more frequently than men

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uh debilitating injuries that change

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their lives

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this kind of thing is not acceptable and

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if you lower standards to accommodate

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the women and gender quotas the quotas

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are pushing for what 25 percent women in

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the navy they want one in four women on

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every navy ship to be a woman if you

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start going with gender quotas then you

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have to lower those standards and that

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endangers the men as well as the women

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it's not good for our military so bottom

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line just everyone understands because i

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i don't really know the the current

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status of our military is that women

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can serve in combat absolute front line

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as front line as you can get as

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frontline as you can get in combat right

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right now that is the new rule that was

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enforced by

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the obama administration over the

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objections of the marine corps that is

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the policy right now but to be clear

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they must pass the same physical tests

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as men in order to serve in that role is

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that correct that's the part that's not

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working out because the army has

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something called the army combat fitness

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tests it's supposed to be gender neutral

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it's a tough test

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but the women are failing at rates far

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greater than the men

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and it makes it difficult then to meet

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those gender diversity quotas 25 percent

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uh that's where reality is colliding

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with so do you feel that they are

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changing the tests

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uh they are changing the way the tests

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are perceived

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uh they it still is remaining a tough

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test they did make adjustments for

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instance some people can do a plank

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instead of having to pull their knees up

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a leg tuck is what they call it uh there

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were adjustments that were made this is

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still a work in progress yeah i just

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read that that caught my attention

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because that hit the news a few weeks

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ago that that instead of push-ups i

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thought it was a set of push-ups you

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could do plank right and that struck me

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as a very woke exercise

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but was is that something that you think

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is being implemented so that it's easier

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for women of course but they won't say

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it that way

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we know that in in boot camp female

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trainees could not do as many pull-ups

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as the men nowhere near as many pull-ups

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as men so they adjusted the scoring

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system

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so that three pull-ups if a woman can do

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them is the same as a man doing 20. this

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is called gender norming there are so

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many different forms of gender norming

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it's impossible to discuss in one

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program

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but sometimes it involves changing the

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scoring system uh taking the top five

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percent as i mentioned before percentile

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comparison or it means taking out of the

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regimen the toughest test uh the marines

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even the marines did this with the

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infantry hump combat

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test yeah the ict

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very tough test but they took some of

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the marching requirements out or they

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changed the scoring systems again we've

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been writing about these issues for

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years but the the officials in the

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pentagon rarely admit that they're doing

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it so that they can accommodate those

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gender quotas and the pressure for those

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come from that pentagon advisory

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committee that i used to belong to back

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in the 1980s it also comes from

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feminists in congress

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people like jackie spear who chairs the

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personnel subcommittee in the house

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the house armed services committee they

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always keep pressing saying this isn't

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fair this isn't right what they don't do

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is acknowledge how many of the problems

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women are experiencing today are a

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direct result of their recommendations

439
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now if you want to talk about sexual

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misconduct of both kinds voluntary and

441
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involuntary this is a result that we

442
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have tracked for years pentagon data

443
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shows the problem is getting worse not

444
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better

445
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all kinds of issues that the feminists

446
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are responsible for they never admit

447
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that they had anything to do with it but

448
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it is a problem when people in the

449
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pentagon don't stand up to it

450
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yeah so this issue has been going on for

451
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for decades but it's really just gotten

452
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worse right i mean

453
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despite all your good work

454
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you're losing the battle

455
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well one exception was uh in the trump

456
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administration president trump did make

457
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adjustments in the transgender policy uh

458
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the trump policy was not a ban on

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transgenders in the military well let's

460
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let let's hold on transgender because i

461
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:21,199
want to cover that but let's just stay

462
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on on women for a bit and

463
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i'll just share anecdotally information

464
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that i have from a uh brother-in-law

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uh who's in the navy

466
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and he was working at a recruitment

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facility

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and he said absolutely positively i'm

469
00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:40,000
not sure he would call it quotas but

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they were giving special treatment to

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women in recruitment if a woman walked

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through the door they're basically

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filling out the application for them if

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a man walks through the door they're

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throwing the application at them number

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one number two he was up for some

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promotion and i'm just going to lump

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things together because i don't remember

479
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the details but basically there's about

480
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80 people up for this promotion that 15

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people would qualify for of the 15 that

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got the promotion he was not one he's a

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white male

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14 out of 15 were women or minorities 14

485
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out of 15 that got the promotion so

486
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that's just two anecdotes but i'm sure

487
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you would say

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that is completely credible

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that is exactly how gender diversity

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metrics quotas work

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these mandates are coming straight from

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the top

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and even during the trump administration

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uh the officials in the pentagon

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who were allowed to stay beyond the

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obama administration

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they kept pushing for those those kinds

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of gender diversity quotas there is in

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the pentagon a huge

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infrastructure of diversity panels uh

501
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there's panels there's commissions

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there's they have meetings all the time

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uh they are more active now than ever

504
00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:56,880
but it still isn't enough now we've got

505
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diversity inclusion and equity die an

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acronym that many people say yeah the

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die

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uh policies that are getting worse they

509
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they say and i got i i i got this quote

510
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quote from you from off of your website

511
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but but they say that diversity is a

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strategic imperative

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what is their well well first

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make the argument for them and then give

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the counter what what is their tell me

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what they say what is their argument as

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to why diversity is a strategic um

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imperative the closest thing to an

519
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argument and believe me i have searched

520
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to find something to back up that

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statement which has been made for quite

522
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a few years now

523
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the closest thing that they cite was a

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study done in business

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involving investors i think stock

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investors and someone said if you have a

527
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group that includes women you have a

528
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:52,799
better decision-making process again

529
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:55,039
it's nothing to do with the military and

530
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and the data has nothing at all to do

531
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with what we're seeing uh implemented in

532
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our military today other than that there

533
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:04,159
is nothing to back up that statement i

534
00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:07,039
hasten to add this the military is

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diverse and that is a good thing i have

536
00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:12,559
always considered diversity to be a good

537
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thing what i object to

538
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is the kind of policy that says that

539
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skin color matters more than anything

540
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else if merit is the primary issue

541
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meritocracy you will have national or

542
00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:29,120
excuse me if diversity is the primary

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criterion you will have diversity

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naturally

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because the best will rise to the top

546
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and that's what we support this is what

547
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we want to see

548
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it's the artificial percentage based

549
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diversity mandates that i object to and

550
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i'll tell you exactly where this problem

551
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began in 2011 there was something called

552
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the military leadership diversity

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commission

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of the

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future coming down to the marine corps

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general neller he was i think a

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two star at the time

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this uh mldc leadership diversity

559
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commission

560
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said that what we're going to enforce is

561
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not like the civil rights principles of

562
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:12,960
before not what harry truman mandated

563
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:15,520
when military was ahead of the civilian

564
00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:17,600
world in saying we're going to end

565
00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:18,960
discrimination

566
00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:22,720
done for two reasons the number one

567
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:26,000
reason was not diversity it was because

568
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:29,200
of the needs of the military we needed

569
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:32,000
minority soldiers in the time of korea

570
00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:35,280
and every time since then but mldc

571
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:37,520
admitted that what they were promoting

572
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:39,840
was percentage based that it would be

573
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:42,240
diversity determined by

574
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:44,080
diversity officers in the in the

575
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:46,880
pentagon people would be promoted only

576
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:49,039
if they would support this concept

577
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:51,840
that's where it began that mldc report

578
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,080
is still being quoted today it was a

579
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:56,480
blueprint and because i've followed it i

580
00:22:01,990 --> 00:21:59,520
analyzed it at the time um you we're

581
00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:02,000
seeing the results what

582
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,720
10 years later but it's been relentless

583
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:06,400
and incremental

584
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,039
could it be turned back yes it could but

585
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:11,039
it would take a new president it would

586
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,400
take a new congress

587
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:14,400
and it would take a lot of work by a lot

588
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:16,960
of civilians a lot of voters to say we

589
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:18,880
don't want our military to be used for

590
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,559
social experiments

591
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,320
let me give you an idea and i think i

592
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,159
mentioned this on my show before when i

593
00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:27,120
was interviewing general bishop um but

594
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:29,840
how times have changed very good friend

595
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:32,320
of mine again and a total story was uh

596
00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:34,080
served in west point and this would have

597
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:37,919
been in 1984 or 1985. and he told me a

598
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:40,240
story that i've never forgotten and that

599
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:41,120
is

600
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,760
you said that if the head of your

601
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:45,840
platoon comes to you and says

602
00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:47,600
plebe johnson

603
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,799
how many black men are in your platoon

604
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,799
the answer to that the correct answer is

605
00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:55,200
i sir i don't know sir

606
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:57,280
that is what they were taught to be

607
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:58,640
colorblind

608
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,559
if you gave the answer as to how many

609
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:02,559
blacks were in your platoon

610
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,480
that was the wrong answer because that

611
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,240
means you're paying attention color

612
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:08,640
that's what was being treated at west

613
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:11,120
point in 1985. the report that i

614
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,039
mentioned the military leadership

615
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:15,280
diversity commission report actually

616
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,080
said

617
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:17,760
what we are going to implement will not

618
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,640
be colorblind it's going to be diversity

619
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,559
based on percentages

620
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:25,200
now that is such a radical change and it

621
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,840
happened very quietly uh we were on top

622
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:29,919
of it and a few other organizations are

623
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:31,440
involved now

624
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,559
but it does have consequences and let me

625
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,559
explain one more thing on the

626
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,320
presidential commission on which i

627
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:40,320
served the first thing we did

628
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:43,039
was to decide how would we make our

629
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,240
decisions how would we decide on every

630
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,480
every issue before us we dealt with all

631
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:50,960
branches of the service a wide range of

632
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:52,960
issues we visited bases all over the

633
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:55,279
country the first thing we did was vote

634
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:56,640
for this

635
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,840
a statement

636
00:24:02,470 --> 00:23:59,919
equal opportunity in the military is

637
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:02,480
important but if there is a conflict

638
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,880
between equal opportunity and the needs

639
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:06,720
of the military the needs of the

640
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:09,200
military must come first

641
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,440
that was you have no idea how

642
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:14,480
controversial that statement was because

643
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:16,640
people who wanted women in the infantry

644
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,720
knew that was the ball game because if

645
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,880
you want women in in the infantry you're

646
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:22,720
saying equal opportunity is more

647
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:25,120
important if you say equal opportunity

648
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:27,039
is more important then why not have

649
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:29,440
transgenders in the military why not

650
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:31,840
have the whole range of social agenda

651
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:35,200
items it all starts with the priorities

652
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:37,440
that are followed and that's why it's

653
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:39,279
right there on our web page our mission

654
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:40,559
statement is

655
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,840
we support readiness sound priorities

656
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:45,440
that means the needs of the military

657
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,960
must come first

658
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:48,960
and so describe for us the state of the

659
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,640
military now as far as getting

660
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:52,799
promotions and rising to the level of

661
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:55,760
general and so on um in order to become

662
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:57,919
a general these days you probably have

663
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:00,559
to have demonstrated your commitment

664
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:03,120
to equity diversity into all these

665
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,320
things that you're

666
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:06,480
talking about right that is the criteria

667
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,360
now

668
00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:09,440
uh some people have said we need to have

669
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:11,919
women in combat arms and even selective

670
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,400
service so that they can get promotions

671
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:16,080
here's something you probably were not

672
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:18,960
aware of and i followed this issue for

673
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:21,440
decades women have been promoted at

674
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,480
rates equal to or faster than men

675
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:26,640
it's been that way

676
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:29,600
for decades and it still is we don't

677
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:31,600
need to have women in the infantry in

678
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:34,640
order to have some who aspire to be

679
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:37,440
generals to become generals and admirals

680
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,880
a lot of women when they get to a

681
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:40,320
certain point in their career they

682
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,360
decide families come first and that's

683
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,200
the way it is in private industry too

684
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,520
isn't it so the fact that we don't have

685
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,600
equal numbers of female generals and

686
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:51,360
admirals that's not a sign that the

687
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:53,919
military discriminates against women it

688
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,000
just means that women make choices on

689
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:58,159
their own and the military shouldn't be

690
00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:59,520
trying to

691
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:01,679
to force something different on them

692
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,520
just to please some

693
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:05,679
woke activists who say well why don't

694
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:09,039
you have 25 or 50 percent you see how

695
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:12,240
priorities really are important

696
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:15,200
um okay let's turn to the transgender

697
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:16,480
issue so

698
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:19,600
um the current state is that

699
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,279
uh there's

700
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:23,520
zero restrictions on transgender and by

701
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,880
the way we did a deep dive on this show

702
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,039
on the whole issue of transgender and

703
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,200
gender dysphoria that's what it is it is

704
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:31,600
a psychological disorder called gender

705
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:34,240
dysphoria and the military

706
00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:37,279
uh precludes people from serving with

707
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,159
all kinds of disorders

708
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:42,640
and gender dysphoria would appear to be

709
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,279
one of those types of disorders but of

710
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,760
course you've got this movement lgbt

711
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:49,600
activists that want to say that well no

712
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,039
it's not a disorder we don't want to

713
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:53,679
call it a disorder even though it's

714
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:56,960
been diagnosed as a disorder by you know

715
00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:00,559
for for decades um so tell us first of

716
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:01,919
all what is the current state for

717
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:04,240
transgender in the military well just

718
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:05,919
i'm going to go back a few years first

719
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:08,080
in the obama administration

720
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,000
at the tail end of the administration

721
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:12,159
the decision was made to include

722
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:14,400
transgenders in the military when the

723
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:16,880
new administration came in donald trump

724
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:18,720
donald trump issued some tweets he said

725
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,159
no that's not going to happen but that's

726
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:22,240
not what changed policy there was a

727
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,120
six-month study of what happened under

728
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:27,600
the obama administration and what was

729
00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:30,960
found was 300 percent increases in

730
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:33,919
medical visits in medical costs for

731
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:36,159
those who sought treatment for gender

732
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:37,360
dysphoria

733
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:39,520
these are just two factoids that were

734
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,799
presented to president trump and the

735
00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:44,799
secretary of defense at the time james

736
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:47,840
mattis suggested well we need to have a

737
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:50,960
policy that focuses on gender dysphoria

738
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:52,880
and that is exactly what the president

739
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:55,120
did the policy is not a ban on

740
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:56,960
transgenders in the military it does

741
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,360
have restrictions or it used to

742
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:01,279
and frankly i think that policy would

743
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,240
have been upheld by the us supreme court

744
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:06,399
it was on its way to the supreme court

745
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:09,039
when joe biden got elected so it was

746
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:10,799
either i think five days after he took

747
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:12,880
office he signed an executive order said

748
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:14,960
no we're going to go back to the biden

749
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,440
years so so to be clear

750
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:19,440
hold on so to be clear under the trump

751
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,000
policy it was not an absolute ban on

752
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,159
transgender it just limited their

753
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:26,399
service depending on what their their

754
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:28,799
particular circumstances were yes if

755
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:31,600
they were stable for 18 months and if

756
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:34,799
they served in their biological sex

757
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:35,760
you see

758
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:38,399
some people do serve in their biological

759
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:40,960
sex even if they have feelings that

760
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,120
might be uh tending toward gender

761
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:45,440
dysphoria and that was the policy in

762
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:48,320
fact the the advocacy groups at the time

763
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:50,000
said you have people with gender

764
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:51,919
dysphoria and you have transgenders who

765
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:54,559
do not have gender dysphoria now it's a

766
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:57,840
very fine point and the the thorough job

767
00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:59,760
that was done by the panel of experts

768
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,240
under the direction of president trump

769
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:04,080
and at the time uh the secretary of

770
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:06,960
defense james mattis it was really a

771
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,600
solid report that's why i say it was on

772
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:11,600
its way to being upheld as

773
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,640
constitutional by the supreme court

774
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:17,200
it was implemented but in comes the new

775
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,520
administration and they've thrown that

776
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:21,840
out and they have returned now to the

777
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:24,399
obama administration policies which are

778
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,559
just now starting to take effect what

779
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:28,480
does this mean well the first group of

780
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,640
people to be hurt will be women

781
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:33,360
privacy is an issue because biological

782
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:34,559
males

783
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:37,520
will be required and allowed to use

784
00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:40,559
private facilities that used to be for

785
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,399
reserved for only women

786
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,640
we have athletic teams in the military

787
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:46,880
also starting with the military service

788
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,679
academies we haven't seen it yet but if

789
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:51,919
we start seeing competitors who are

790
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:54,320
biologically different on the women's

791
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:55,440
teams

792
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,640
that's going to be extremely

793
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:58,399
controversial that's an issue that's

794
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,159
probably we'll see coming up down the

795
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:03,279
road but the primary objection is why

796
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,960
are we doing this they're doing it for

797
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,320
reasons of

798
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:08,880
equal opportunity regardless of the cost

799
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:11,120
regardless of the impact regardless of

800
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:13,840
the lost time for medical visits the

801
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,159
cost for surgeries

802
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:18,480
the demand and we predicted this the

803
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:20,880
demand has already been made that these

804
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,399
so-called benefits surgeries to

805
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:26,320
change well they don't change sex but

806
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:28,399
they do mutilate bodies when you remove

807
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:31,120
healthy body parts what do you call that

808
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:33,919
so under the new plan i i i could join

809
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:36,640
the military with gender dysphoria yes

810
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:39,840
and i could get a sex change operation

811
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:42,000
while a member of the military paid for

812
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:44,240
by the government that is the rule right

813
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,919
now i'm not even aware that there there

814
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:47,520
might be some minor

815
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:50,320
uh restriction in terms of timing but

816
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:51,840
once you're in the military and you

817
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,520
announce that you are

818
00:30:58,149 --> 00:30:55,840
that you want to be

819
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:58,159
treated for gender dysphoria or you want

820
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,480
to transition to the opposite sex

821
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:02,559
several things happen you can have as

822
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,120
long as a full year off for what is what

823
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:08,320
is called uh um experience real life

824
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:09,600
experience

825
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:10,799
rle

826
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:12,559
this is time away so that you can

827
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:15,519
experiment with living as a

828
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,640
persona of a person of the opposite sex

829
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:20,640
then the decision is made whether or not

830
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,880
to seek hormone treatments which are

831
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:24,559
very costly

832
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:26,080
lifelong

833
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,120
and irreversible in many cases and in

834
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:31,519
not not the majority but in some cases

835
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:34,399
surgeries are are sought to remove

836
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,960
healthy body parts yes the pentagon will

837
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,399
finance that

838
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:40,720
the veterans administration is going to

839
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:42,559
be forced to cover these kinds of

840
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,960
surgeries it's going to be very costly

841
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:46,880
and the demands have already been made

842
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:49,440
as we predicted to extend all of those

843
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:52,240
costs to dependents including children

844
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:53,919
now we're really i hope people

845
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,120
understand just how far-reaching this

846
00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:59,600
policy is now i hasten to add

847
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:01,760
transgenderism this is this has got to

848
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:04,640
be really tough to be so confused about

849
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,600
your sexuality that you seek this kind

850
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,240
of treatment you have compassion for

851
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,399
people who feel that way these people

852
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:14,720
deserve competent medical care but

853
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:17,200
here's the problem when the medical care

854
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:19,440
only goes in one direction that's not

855
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:21,600
fair to the patient if someone says you

856
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,600
have a heart condition so you need to go

857
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:25,440
and have a heart transplant

858
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:27,200
well excuse me i think i need a second

859
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:28,399
opinion

860
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:31,360
it's the same way with psychological

861
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,000
conditions people should have the kind

862
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,720
of medical care that gives all of the

863
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:38,720
options so that people are fully

864
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,519
informed of the risks the negative parts

865
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:43,840
of it but right now

866
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:45,519
the so-called medical treatment only

867
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:47,120
goes in one direction and that's well

868
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,360
that's i can i can explain that that's

869
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,600
because lgbt activists have hijacked

870
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,000
this issue and the entire medical

871
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:56,159
community including the american academy

872
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,320
of pediatrics to say that you are born

873
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,399
this way and if you don't believe born

874
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:02,640
this way then you're cast out and

875
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:06,000
canceled uh you can't get promoted

876
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:08,080
i mean they'll say you're born this way

877
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,480
with regard to the lgbt

878
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:12,960
lesbian gay bisexual but when it comes

879
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,960
to transgenders oh no we're different

880
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:16,320
you can change

881
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:19,200
your biological sex the truth is because

882
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:22,240
of human dna and what science tells us

883
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:26,080
about human dna your biological sex

884
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:29,679
is determined even before birth you can

885
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:31,519
change your appearance you can change

886
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:33,679
your persona you can change a lot of

887
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:36,240
things your hairstyle your clothing you

888
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:37,120
can do

889
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:39,120
all of these things but it still doesn't

890
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:41,679
change your biological sex now how does

891
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,240
this affect the doctors and

892
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,480
nurses in the military this is one of

893
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:48,559
the more serious results of the new

894
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:49,600
policy

895
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:51,519
doctors and nurses will not have the

896
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,679
option to decline

897
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:55,760
to perform these kinds of surgeries or

898
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:56,720
treatments

899
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:58,640
if they do they will put their career at

900
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,600
risk this is official policy now

901
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:02,880
again

902
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:04,880
it's unfair to the patients it's unfair

903
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,200
to their families it's unfair to those

904
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,520
doctors and nurses and then you get into

905
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:11,599
chaplains and religious conditions so

906
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:13,119
just just to be clear just put a fine

907
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:14,320
point on and then i want to move on to

908
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:15,119
the next

909
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:18,240
topic in military hospitals

910
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,240
in military hospitals they are

911
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,000
performing

912
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,159
gender reassignment surgeries yes

913
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,560
reportedly that's right

914
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,560
and if they can't do them in military

915
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:30,240
hospitals then they're being done

916
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:31,280
elsewhere

917
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:33,839
um it's an elaborate system for these

918
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:36,399
referrals it's it's going on it's hard

919
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,280
to get the data but the trump's uh trump

920
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:41,119
administration's report

921
00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:44,960
said that in some units even maintenance

922
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,240
budgets were pressed because they had

923
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,119
people who had to travel to other cities

924
00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:53,040
to get transgender hormones and

925
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:55,280
treatments and all the rest so all of

926
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,160
these costs were indeed considerable and

927
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,720
there was no justification for it any

928
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,640
more than any other psychological

929
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,960
condition should be accommodated no

930
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:06,720
matter what the cost is

931
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:08,880
you see because it's considered a

932
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:10,320
special class

933
00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:12,640
anyone involved with the lgbt movement

934
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:15,440
transgenders the pentagon now is fully

935
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,800
supportive of this agenda lgbt pride

936
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:20,320
month in june

937
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,079
was celebrated in the pentagon not

938
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:24,880
during the trump years but certainly in

939
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:27,520
the biden administration it is a change

940
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:30,160
in priorities and in the next elections

941
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:32,000
the next two people are going to have to

942
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,240
decide do they want to continue this or

943
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:36,240
do they want to make a change

944
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:37,920
what about gays in the military what is

945
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:39,359
your position on that

946
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,760
well we fought the repeal of the law in

947
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,200
2010

948
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:45,359
as i mentioned the law that was passed

949
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:47,200
in 1993

950
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:50,160
did withstand a constitutional challenge

951
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:53,440
for quite a few years uh that 93 was

952
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:54,880
don't ask don't tell

953
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:57,359
no it was a law that said homosexuals

954
00:36:02,069 --> 00:35:59,760
were not eligible to serve in the armed

955
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:02,079
forces don't ask don't tell was an

956
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:04,160
administrative policy it was put in

957
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:07,040
place by bill clinton it made no sense

958
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:09,359
we did not support don't ask don't tell

959
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,520
but people use the catchphrase to

960
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:14,160
describe the actual law section 654

961
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:17,119
title 10 nobody remembers that but the

962
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,839
law was constitutional because it was

963
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:22,560
based on military necessity but when you

964
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:24,720
change it to something else

965
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,359
then you invite a whole host of things

966
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,599
that we predicted but at that time the

967
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,359
administration denied

968
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:33,280
okay so sorry let's just like because a

969
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:34,880
lot of my listeners you know aren't up

970
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:37,040
on this as much as you are so let's walk

971
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:39,119
through this so you're saying that the

972
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:40,560
supreme court

973
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:43,359
upheld the law banning homosexuals from

974
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:46,000
serving in the military yes right

975
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:47,200
several times

976
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:48,880
and and it was based on military

977
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:52,560
readiness what was the primary argument

978
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:54,480
in in favor of the ban there were

979
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:57,359
actually 14 different findings uh things

980
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:59,839
like the military is unique it must

981
00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:02,240
deploy on short notice people live in

982
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:05,280
close quarters um unit cohesion and

983
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:07,200
morale are important i'm just saying

984
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:08,640
this from memory

985
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:11,200
all of those findings remain sound to

986
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,760
this day in fact a pentagon official was

987
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,440
asked are all these findings still valid

988
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:17,440
he said yes now let me let me push back

989
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,480
on one thing

990
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,720
asking for a change because the obama

991
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:22,240
administration wanted to change it

992
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:24,079
that's it a lot of people have made the

993
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,119
comparison between the ban on gays to

994
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:29,119
ban on on blacks they're saying that

995
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:30,480
blacks could not serve in the same

996
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:34,320
platoon and so on in his case so

997
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:37,520
dispel that for people yes i did

998
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:40,079
no comparison because when harry truman

999
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:42,320
signed the executive order to end

1000
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:43,760
um

1001
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:45,520
discrimination and prejudice in the

1002
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,640
military it was done for two reasons the

1003
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:50,800
needs of the military and of course

1004
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:53,680
equal opportunity and that is the that

1005
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:55,599
is the way it it can be done it should

1006
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:57,200
be done it was done be before the

1007
00:38:01,829 --> 00:38:00,240
civilian world but the the law regarding

1008
00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:01,839
gays in the military there were a number

1009
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:03,920
of promises made and we made some

1010
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:06,560
predictions all of which have come true

1011
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:08,079
the promise was made there wouldn't be

1012
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:10,160
same-sex marriages there wouldn't be

1013
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,520
same-sex benefits uh the denial was made

1014
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,440
that transgenders would ever come into

1015
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:17,520
the into the picture

1016
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:18,880
that religious liberty would not be

1017
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,359
affected we warned that all of those

1018
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,160
promises would not be held

1019
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:26,480
and of course within weeks we were

1020
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:28,480
proven right but many members of

1021
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:30,800
congress were misled there's also a

1022
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:33,359
problem of sexual misconduct and i'm

1023
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:36,079
sorry to report that the issue of sexual

1024
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,440
misconduct is not involving women alone

1025
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:41,520
the rates for both women and men have

1026
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,480
escalated year after year after year we

1027
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:47,280
don't know exactly how it is happening

1028
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,760
and who is doing this with regard to men

1029
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:51,440
but it's it's getting to the point now

1030
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,359
where even in congress they're starting

1031
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:55,280
to make take notice

1032
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:57,520
it's the kind of thing that

1033
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,079
really does need scrutiny and more

1034
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,079
scrutiny you mentioned your friend or

1035
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,320
maybe it was a family member in the navy

1036
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:07,440
the navy's been the worst uh there was a

1037
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:08,560
on on

1038
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:11,440
the uss ronald reagan several years ago

1039
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,160
a transgender person actually a person

1040
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:16,320
who was identified as gay

1041
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:18,400
he used to do drag

1042
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:21,200
dancing and he may still be i don't know

1043
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:23,359
on the carrier ronald reagan it was a

1044
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:27,680
strip dance a drag queen strip dance on

1045
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:31,200
a warship uss ronald reagan and the navy

1046
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,040
not only condoned it it was written up

1047
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,440
with pictures in navy times and nobody

1048
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:37,760
said anything about it that was in the

1049
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:40,000
during the trump administration i know

1050
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:41,760
they were concerned about it but they

1051
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:43,119
didn't have the right people at the

1052
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:44,960
pentagon to make a change

1053
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:45,920
so

1054
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:47,839
i'll tell you that the navy's been the

1055
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:50,960
worst but all of the services have

1056
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:53,200
dabbled in social engineering to various

1057
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,000
degrees and right now there's a serious

1058
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:59,040
lack of leadership for sound policy

1059
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:01,200
so but but wasn't the argument about

1060
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,400
unit cohesion made when it when blacks

1061
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:06,800
had to serve in separate platoons

1062
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:08,560
and that argument's now being made as

1063
00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:10,240
far as well gays can't serve with

1064
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:11,839
straights in the same platoon there's a

1065
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:14,160
unit cohesiveness issue

1066
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:15,200
and

1067
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:17,760
certainly nobody would argue today that

1068
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,520
blacks serving together with whites

1069
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:21,760
affects

1070
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:23,760
the discrimination the prejudice that

1071
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:26,079
occurred before the truman executive

1072
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,880
order was based on irrational

1073
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,040
prejudice there was nothing rational

1074
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:33,599
about it wasn't real

1075
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:36,240
and that's why when the military was

1076
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:39,200
ordered to eliminate discrimination it

1077
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:42,319
not only worked we we saw minority

1078
00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:43,440
soldiers

1079
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:46,720
and aviators uh fighting in that war and

1080
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:47,520
and

1081
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:49,040
with distinction

1082
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:51,520
and respect uh it's been said that the

1083
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:53,839
military is the only institution where

1084
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,920
minority members routinely boss white

1085
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,520
personnel around

1086
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,440
it's because they're good and it's

1087
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,599
because we needed them in our military

1088
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,800
and we still do

1089
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,720
uh that the military has been way ahead

1090
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,800
of the civilian world in dealing with

1091
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,040
issues of racial discrimination when you

1092
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:13,359
talk about lgbt issues you're talking

1093
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,839
about sex you're talking about sexual

1094
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,400
feelings and you're talking about is

1095
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,560
this really a good idea for morale is it

1096
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:22,800
good for women is it good for men is it

1097
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,119
good for discipline and morale that is

1098
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:27,359
so important these are the intangibles

1099
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:29,920
there really is no case for it for the

1100
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:32,880
inclusion and extension of repeal of

1101
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:35,280
that law into where we're headed right

1102
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:37,920
now uh certainly the issues of sexual

1103
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:40,240
misconduct are a side effect of the

1104
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:42,319
change in the law but it wasn't only the

1105
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,000
change in that law well but wouldn't you

1106
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,079
have to say the sexual misconduct you

1107
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,000
would have to be able to demonstrate

1108
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,640
that gays engage in sexual misconduct at

1109
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:52,079
a higher rate than

1110
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:53,040
no that's true

1111
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:55,200
that is not what i said i said the

1112
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,960
issues of sexual misconduct have

1113
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,040
escalated every year we don't know the

1114
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:01,440
exact reasons why we just know there is

1115
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:02,800
a problem

1116
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,880
it does need to be looked at objectively

1117
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,160
and we know that men are being

1118
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,319
victimized at a higher actually i think

1119
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:10,319
the numbers are higher among men because

1120
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:12,400
there's more men in the military and

1121
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:13,839
it's it's an issue that is drawing

1122
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,560
attention in congress

1123
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,480
saying every person who is gay in the

1124
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,640
military is likely to attack someone

1125
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:22,800
else and and no that's not what i said

1126
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:24,560
that certainly is not what i intended to

1127
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,240
say and we don't know to what extent uh

1128
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,800
these kinds of issues are causing these

1129
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:32,240
kinds of problems

1130
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,680
but let me just ask one more question on

1131
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,760
the gay gay issue and then move on to

1132
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:37,200
the next one i mean

1133
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,720
society does change i mean the

1134
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:40,800
acceptance of gays has

1135
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:43,520
become far far greater during my

1136
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,520
lifetime i mean i never thought i'd see

1137
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:47,599
gay marriage and that happened so

1138
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:50,400
swiftly and so on and um just like

1139
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,920
perhaps whites and blacks weren't as

1140
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,760
comfortable mixing

1141
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,160
back in the 40s and now

1142
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:58,880
it's commonplace kind of the same things

1143
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,800
going on with straight and gay

1144
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:02,079
you know

1145
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:03,680
more gays are out of the closet

1146
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,440
everybody now has a family member or a

1147
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:07,280
friend that's out of the closet gay

1148
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:08,800
we're interacting with each other more

1149
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:10,240
we're becoming more comfortable with it

1150
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:10,960
so

1151
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:13,599
that whole unit cohesion thing where

1152
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,920
actually sleeping next to a gay person

1153
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:17,280
having them shower next to you having

1154
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:18,960
them usually the same bathrooms on i

1155
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:21,040
just think society is changing on that

1156
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:22,480
and and that doesn't seem to be

1157
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:24,240
affecting cohesion

1158
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,240
society has changed to the point that

1159
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:28,319
women are comfortable with biological

1160
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:29,200
men

1161
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,640
sharing the showers with them okay

1162
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:31,920
that's transgender i just want to stay

1163
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,200
in game for a second though let's say

1164
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:35,599
i'm getting it remember

1165
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:38,560
when the issue was before congress

1166
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,960
we predicted although the administration

1167
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,440
denied that it would lead directly to

1168
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:45,760
the transgender issue and a host of

1169
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:48,079
other things that would be that were

1170
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:49,680
difficult to predict but we knew that

1171
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:53,119
there would be issues now in some cases

1172
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,280
not a problem but in many cases there is

1173
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:57,359
a problem and religious freedom is

1174
00:44:00,870 --> 00:44:00,079
affected also because chaplains have

1175
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:00,880
been

1176
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:03,119
told and disciplined in some cases

1177
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:04,240
dismissed

1178
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:07,520
for reflecting the values of the

1179
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:10,079
institutions that authorize them to be

1180
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:12,640
chaplains in the military so all of

1181
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:15,040
these they all are intertwined

1182
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:17,119
but i don't see it as a personal thing

1183
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,720
it's a matter of what are the policy

1184
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,200
makers doing policymakers are to blame

1185
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,359
here not the individuals what are they

1186
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:25,359
doing why are they doing it what

1187
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,400
priorities are they showing uh are they

1188
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:30,480
pursuing the kinds of priorities that

1189
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:33,040
are problematic i think that the latter

1190
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,839
is true and even more so in this

1191
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,720
administration than we have seen in

1192
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,160
previous years

1193
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:40,319
and so bottom line what should be the

1194
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,720
military policy on gays

1195
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,480
i think the

1196
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,880
it's unlikely that the law as it was

1197
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:48,720
written in 1993

1198
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:49,680
would be

1199
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:53,200
put back in place i doubt that

1200
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:54,720
because well it's just not going to

1201
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:55,599
happen

1202
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:59,040
but i do think that where

1203
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:01,520
the rights of others are are impinged

1204
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,240
upon when we get into quotas when we get

1205
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:06,319
into saying well some people are more

1206
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,280
special than others uh then i think we

1207
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:11,520
need to reassess where we're going with

1208
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,920
this um well by the way i wouldn't doubt

1209
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:15,839
for two seconds that there's affirmative

1210
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:18,079
action for lgbt in the military right

1211
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:19,280
now we know there is in the

1212
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:21,040
administration they're always

1213
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:22,480
celebrating and putting out news

1214
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,839
releases

1215
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,240
about people who are lgbt who are being

1216
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:28,400
appointed to rather high level positions

1217
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:30,000
in the pentagon and in the

1218
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:32,640
administration yes it has become a

1219
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,520
diversity factor it's it's it's being

1220
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:37,920
overdone i think people have a certain

1221
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:40,560
level of tolerance and friendship

1222
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:43,760
that will continue but i think the way

1223
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:46,480
the agenda is being taken to extremes

1224
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,359
again we predicted this predicted this

1225
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:51,280
and we have no idea how far it's going

1226
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:53,040
to be taking taken

1227
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:54,480
okay last thing i want to cover is is

1228
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:57,440
just politization of the military which

1229
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,359
really all these issues that's exactly

1230
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:01,440
what it is it's politicization of the

1231
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:04,880
military but in particular politics

1232
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,119
involving the stand down day

1233
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:09,839
that was recently issued so tell

1234
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:12,480
everyone what what was stand down

1235
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:15,280
day and and and how did it play out well

1236
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,960
the new secretary of defense lloyd

1237
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:18,720
austin when he came in

1238
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,280
uh was disturbed about reports that

1239
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:22,800
there were some veterans who were

1240
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,800
involved in the assault on the capitol

1241
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,400
on january 6.

1242
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,280
he also had a personal experience a

1243
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,599
horrible incident when he was a junior

1244
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,440
officer where someone was killed on the

1245
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:36,079
street a couple actually a black couple

1246
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:39,040
uh and and it it really was something

1247
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:40,640
that he was very concerned about when he

1248
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:43,599
was just starting in the military

1249
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:47,359
so he called for a worldwide stand down

1250
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,240
month

1251
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:50,240
a full day would be

1252
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,359
scheduled at every base around the world

1253
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:55,520
the problem was that the materials that

1254
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:57,920
were issued to look at extremism

1255
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:01,280
skewed only to one type of extremism

1256
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,240
right-wing extremism and we know that in

1257
00:47:08,829 --> 00:47:06,560
the past these kinds of right-wing

1258
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:08,839
groups that are extreme

1259
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:11,839
kkk those kinds of groups yeah they used

1260
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:14,240
to be there and they may still be and

1261
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:16,240
they that problem does need to be

1262
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:19,119
addressed it has been for decades but

1263
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:20,720
what was missing

1264
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:23,760
was what about the people on the left

1265
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:26,400
what about at you mentioned west point

1266
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:28,720
this commie cadet that was the nickname

1267
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:31,680
that was attached to him because he had

1268
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:34,640
a on his cover when he graduated full

1269
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:37,119
uniform inside his cover it said

1270
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,880
communism will win

1271
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:40,800
uh he had che guevara on his chest

1272
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:42,880
underneath his uniform the guy was a

1273
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,119
total leftist radical and he had mentors

1274
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:47,359
at west point now they're not looking at

1275
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:50,160
that kind of extremism and and i have a

1276
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:51,599
problem with that

1277
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,480
the antifa group the the extreme

1278
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:57,119
elements of black lives matter who have

1279
00:48:01,589 --> 00:47:59,440
exploited people who want to seriously

1280
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,599
protest and they have the right to

1281
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:03,760
protest the death of george floyd or

1282
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,480
anything else but the blm organization

1283
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:09,440
itself the leaders are self-identified

1284
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:13,200
marxist so if you have a stand down day

1285
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:15,200
and you don't look at those kinds of

1286
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:17,839
issues those extremists then you create

1287
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:20,880
a morale problem enter senator tom

1288
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,000
cotton

1289
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:24,400
he has legislation to end critical race

1290
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,599
theory

1291
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:28,319
teachings in the military starting with

1292
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:30,640
the academies this legislation

1293
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,119
unfortunately is necessary because the

1294
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:35,280
pentagon is looking at this issue only

1295
00:48:40,549 --> 00:48:38,000
in terms of one type of extremism and

1296
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:40,559
they're overlooking the extreme elements

1297
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,319
of critical race theory and what it

1298
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:44,960
means how destructive it is to sit

1299
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:47,599
people down black and white together and

1300
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,400
have

1301
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:51,200
one group say that group over there is

1302
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,920
racist because of their skin color and

1303
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:55,359
then they're all supposed to go out and

1304
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,839
fight a war together talk about a blow

1305
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,400
to unit cohesion i can't imagine

1306
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,480
anything more destructive than that

1307
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:04,480
and yet this administration

1308
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:07,440
eliminated the trump administration's

1309
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:09,920
first executive order to get rid of crt

1310
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:11,920
in the military they want it in the

1311
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,559
military and that they've been issuing

1312
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,720
several executive orders since then so

1313
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:18,720
so to be clear was that was that one of

1314
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,839
the you know

1315
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:21,920
biden signed a ton of executive orders

1316
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:23,599
essentially on his first day was that

1317
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:24,640
one of them

1318
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,839
overturning trump's ban on the first day

1319
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:30,000
he overturned the executive order

1320
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,839
banning crt he also got rid of the 1776

1321
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,000
commission the one that wants honest

1322
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:38,880
history to include teaching about what

1323
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:41,119
happened with slavery and how did we end

1324
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:43,920
slavery this was a commission uh headed

1325
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,880
by larry yarn of hillsdale distinguished

1326
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,720
historians were part of this commission

1327
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,119
they issued a report they took that

1328
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:53,760
report down from the white house website

1329
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:55,520
they they abolished the commission they

1330
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:57,520
are still going to continue in a private

1331
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,319
capacity and then several days later

1332
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:02,319
there was another executive order

1333
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:05,359
mandating critical race theory in

1334
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:07,920
military institutions it gets confusing

1335
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,440
because there were so many i've written

1336
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:11,280
about them you can look it up on my

1337
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:14,480
webpage cmrlink.org

1338
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,000
but this administration is quite

1339
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,319
determined and this is not an accident

1340
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,160
and that's why i say that although we

1341
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:21,839
are we're not a lobbying group

1342
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:23,920
legislation is not our mission we're a

1343
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:26,480
public policy organization but we write

1344
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:29,440
about reasons why something must be done

1345
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:31,839
and it appears that congress is the only

1346
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,119
institution

1347
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:35,200
that can do something about this

1348
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,119
before it becomes too late

1349
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,520
the legislation that tom cotton and dan

1350
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,359
bishop are offering in the current

1351
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,520
congress uh would say things that are

1352
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,760
you shouldn't even be controversial for

1353
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:47,520
instance any race

1354
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:49,920
is inherently superior or inferior to

1355
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:52,000
any other race we can't have that kind

1356
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:53,920
of teaching the united states is a

1357
00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:57,040
fundamentally racist country no

1358
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:58,960
the declaration of independence and the

1359
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:01,040
u.s constitution are fundamentally

1360
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:03,839
racist documents no we don't need that

1361
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:05,359
an individual's moral worth is

1362
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:07,760
determined by his or her race no we

1363
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,160
shouldn't have that i could go on

1364
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,640
the legislation says we will not teach

1365
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:14,480
these kinds of ideas

1366
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,040
in our military institutions it deserves

1367
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:19,520
support and that's why many people even

1368
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:22,400
new groups are popping up to say we want

1369
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:24,400
something done now with the schools

1370
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,040
parents are out there the congress

1371
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,520
doesn't really have a mandate to order

1372
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:31,680
local schools what to do we've been

1373
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,400
through common core and we know how that

1374
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,400
didn't work out and people fought

1375
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,079
against washington

1376
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:41,200
mandated common core provisions but when

1377
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:43,520
it comes to the military article 1

1378
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:45,680
section 8 of the constitution says

1379
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:47,599
congress makes the rules

1380
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:49,280
so that's why the current national

1381
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:51,920
defense authorization act

1382
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:54,160
certainly we hope that this kind of

1383
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:55,520
legislation

1384
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,720
will be put into that bill

1385
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,480
even though it's it's the biden

1386
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,640
administration it would be a marker it

1387
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,319
would give people some legal leg to

1388
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:06,960
stand on and if it doesn't pass

1389
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:08,960
then it will be an issue in the next two

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elections because the off year

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congressional elections and of course

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the presidential race so for you know

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for the people who say that oh this

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critical race theory is just made up by

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the right this is a fantasy that they

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like to get worked up i mean what better

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proof that that it is real than the fact

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that the first thing biden does when he

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takes office is overturn trump's ban on

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crt so what does that tell you right

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there the evidence is overwhelming and i

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think senator cotton um and and dan

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00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:41,920
crenshaw uh teamed up to set up a

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whistleblower website

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and they've been getting hundreds of

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statements from people uh who are not

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00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,480
disclosing their identity these are real

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00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:51,760
people but they're not disclosing

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00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:54,000
identity for obvious reasons and they're

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describing these instructions they're

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00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:58,319
describing being told if you're if

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you're white skin you stand here if

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you're black skin you stand there and

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then there's a social experiment well

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who who gets to dominate who who's the

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oppressor who are they oppressed

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these are tenets of critical race theory

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but when you see the uh chief of naval

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operations defending

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his choice of a book by ir ibrahim x

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kennedy

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how to

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00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:27,119
inappropriate and yet he defended that

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00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:29,200
as a as a book that should be on maybe

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00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:31,920
reading lists we saw general milly

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states stay something about well because

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i've read about marxism doesn't mean i'm

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00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:39,520
a marxist excuse me general nobody

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00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:41,920
accused you of being a marxist why are

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00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:44,400
you defending critical race theory which

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00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,440
is derived from marx's theory the book

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00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:49,920
written by matthew lohmeyer tracks this

1433
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,040
very well he goes way back into history

1434
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:54,960
and tracks where the history came from

1435
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:56,800
this didn't come out of the blue and it

1436
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,440
didn't happen overnight but now we are

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00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:01,040
seeing it

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00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:03,200
general milley needs to do his homework

1439
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,960
and he needs to get his priorities

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00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,280
straight because when you have theories

1441
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:09,599
being taught in military institutions

1442
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:12,160
schools academies the colleges the war

1443
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:13,280
colleges

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00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:15,599
what you're going to do is divide people

1445
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,200
and you're also telling them they have

1446
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:20,000
no right to dissent if they do

1447
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,079
their careers will be ended he's

1448
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:24,240
actually in effect forcing out of the

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00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:26,720
military the kind of good patriotic

1450
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:29,119
people that we need how does this affect

1451
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,960
recruiting how do you recruit young

1452
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:32,880
people to serve in the military if

1453
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,240
they're being taught in schools that

1454
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:36,240
america is not worth defending

1455
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:39,040
this is alarming and yet

1456
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:40,720
people are just now beginning to

1457
00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:42,640
understand it here's some good news the

1458
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:45,280
polls are showing strong opposition to

1459
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,000
critical race theory i'm amazed at how

1460
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:50,319
quickly the american people have come to

1461
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,799
understand this issue and they are

1462
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,319
pushing back

1463
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,640
and the first pushback though has to

1464
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:58,720
start with the military because quite

1465
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:01,520
often the military leads the way for

1466
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:04,160
social change and it can lead the way in

1467
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:06,640
the wrong direction it can be brought

1468
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,599
back given sound leadership but it's up

1469
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:11,359
to civilians like you and me and

1470
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:15,040
everybody to insist on sound policy

1471
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:17,359
sound priorities this this fight has

1472
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:18,480
just begun

1473
00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:20,319
thank you again to our guest elaine

1474
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,680
donnelly you can check out everything

1475
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:23,280
that she does

1476
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,079
on her website just google center for

1477
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,559
military readiness that's the center for

1478
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,720
military readiness

1479
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:32,160
thank you to our producer michael parker

1480
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,440
thank you all for listening we'll be

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00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:35,359
back soon with another episode of the

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hidden truth show

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